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General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

Sithis

Dread Father
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 16, 2022


Shiori remains the dorkiest goth chick I've ever seen
 

Awoogers

basic ass man who loves the british funny woman
Joined:  Jun 7, 2023

coomaguni

Active member
Joined:  Feb 21, 2024
AGAIN
Why would Haachama want to collab with Kson to the point of sending her a message then just come back to B2 to "apologize": IT DOESNT MAKE FUCKING SENSE


This is legitimately the most retarded shit I've read in quite a while. Props to the Chinese schizo that cooked this up, he's giving the worst of /vt/ a run for its money.

It doesn't have to make sense. It only has to generate clicks. The Haachama apology bit is perhaps the most contrived part of it as you and others have pointed out. This all is just a unique stroke of lunacy for some femboy rrat breeder.

$100 to the forum if we ever get a Hachaama Taiwan apology stream/video/post, expiry: never.
I’m not implying that the gynese rrat is true. I’m saying that the whole Hololive universe (talents, management, fans) will have to deal with bullshit coming from the Chinese community if this continues. All of this drama from just one talent having one stream. It’s going to get worse as mythic sends their talents.

What do the talents really expect going to CN? Gaining another loyal fan base (ha)? The EN fans will only lose faith as it is a clear money grab and CN has proven they will turn on you for hurting their fragile ego. There is no winning.
 

Euthyphro

Certified Awatistic
Joined:  Dec 22, 2023
That's a very early announcement

Archive

I think it's because she's being raided regularly by schizos from /pkg/, probably linked to the alleged boyfriend mod and some doxxing attempts, but I'm not that into it to discover further.
Fairly sure it's more because she can't handle the commitment of being in a corpo. She has barely streamed for the past three months due to work and family stuff. When they debuted she was being positioned as the singer of the gen, but she only had karaoke streams once in a blue moon. She probably thought that she could hop into Kawaii and treat it like a hobby. As far as I can tell she had no PL activity as a VTuber, so it's likely that she realized it's just not for her.

A funny rrat I've seen is that her mod boyfriend got her pregnant and September is the due date. The likely reason it's September because she's just letting her contract run out. Hanamizuki debuted October 15 of last year, so it's just about 1 month short of one year.
 

DanishCookies

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Joined:  May 10, 2023

Sankisei

HOLOLIVE SAIKYO
Joined:  Feb 23, 2023
I’m not implying that the gynese rrat is true. I’m saying that the whole Hololive universe (talents, management, fans) will have to deal with bullshit coming from the Chinese community if this continues. All of this drama from just one talent having one stream. It’s going to get worse as mythic sends their talents.

What do the talents really expect going to CN? Gaining another loyal fan base (ha)? The EN fans will only lose faith as it is a clear money grab and CN has proven they will turn on you for hurting their fragile ego. There is no winning.
The return of Hololive to B2 by Kobo got beaten by Mikeneko (also going to China)who is out of her mind and washed up by a big margin
There are not that much Hololive fans if they dont bring out the bigger names over there like Aqua who already refused to come back
 

Awoogers

basic ass man who loves the british funny woman
Joined:  Jun 7, 2023
The return of Hololive to B2 by Kobo got beaten by Mikeneko (also going to China)who is out of her mind and washed up by a big margin
There are not that much Hololive fans if they dont bring out the bigger names over there like Aqua who already refused to come back
And besides konmea was also one of the reasons why they were big in china back then and given that aqua and mea don't really interact these days as much as they used to back then there won't be that much of a pull

So yeah it's not worth the effort
 

Hff201

Pippa Fan, Failed Normalfriend
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$100 to the forum if we ever get a Hachaama Taiwan apology stream/video/post, expiry: never.
Haachama willingly making an apology will never happen.

Haachama being pressured to apologise because the chinks are starting shit again, however...
 

agility_

We have some serious streams to discuss 🔨
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Joined:  Sep 14, 2022
Is Ina really playing Elden Ring right now.

Holy shit.
 

DanishCookies

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Joined:  May 10, 2023
Haachama being pressured to apologise because the chinks are starting shit again, however...

She can use this for an apology and turn it into something similar to the Eminem track she released a week or so ago
 

nooternun

(๑ 'ᆺ' ) Pfp is me IRL
Joined:  Mar 15, 2023
interesting post from reddit
allegedly one of the main CEOs behind the company that sponsored Holo's return to CN was yapping about Holo's return to BiliBili, this is all 2nd hand info from this chink keemstar-esque dramafag
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYou...hon_ownerceo_mocks_holoid_and_en_members_who/ https://archive.ph/Ox0LE

this was the video itself if anyone knows chinese, would love if anyone knows how to archive BiliBili videos
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cy411B7ih/ https://archive.ph/axRLo
alleges that most of JP signed a form to return to BiliBili and that "only 1 ID and EN" refused


First what is Metishon? It is company that runs Kobo's Bilibili channel and is doing business as an agent to bring international Vtubers back to Bilibili.
Who is in the video? 乐府 or Lefu is the owner and boss of Metishon. His name is public information because of China social media and business laws. He owns 62.5% of Metishon shares according to publically available business records. His identity is public knowledge on his socials (not dox).
Metishon is also the company that owns Noa Talent, a new EN Vtuber group that leaked their new lineup by accident through youtube misconfiguration. Some people here probably found out who is in it. Their audition manager 'Quinn' went onto 4chan and admitted that she was the one who messed up. She also replied to 4chan on her twitter account to prove that it really was her. Metishon also owns Witch Company 魔女公司 which is a Vtuber company.
I'll do the translation of the video (he calls Holomems 'Livers' due to bad english) https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cy411B7ih/
  • 'Why are you guys looping? I said many times that they, livers want to return to Bilibili of their own will. I've been saying this since last year. They came to us, why did they come to us, it's because livers are throwing a tantrum, they definitely want to stream on Bilibili'
  • 'Those that do not support Bilibili are the other Holo Vs (reading viewer comment)? You mean the Crews? No, Crews can watch Aqua, it's not like we are stopping you Crews from watching your main.'
  • 'It has to be Genshin? It's not that. No, they definitely want to play Genshin, but it doesn't mean Genshin is the only reason for returning to Bilibili.'
  • 'But I think Shirakami Fubuki returning is easy. She wants to be back, she wants to come back and stream. She didn't say she was unwilling, and she replied really quickly you know? We were surprised that she's so cooperative. She's among the most cooperative. Because the damage to her and her reputation in the past was quite huge. We asked those wanting to return to fill up the forms. Shirakami Fubuki was the first or second to do it. Also her cooperation level was the highest. She agreed (to come back), she really agreed. She agreed to everything.'
  • 'Did Suisei submit the form? Suisei submitted it. If she didn't how could we have uploaded her BIBBIDIBA video so quickly? Suisei agrees very much. Many superstars agreed, those who came to Bilibili in the past all agreed quickly. Those that were on Bilibili all agreed, none disagreed, and they did it very quickly.'
  • 'Who did not agree? Those that weren't on Bilibili before. Did Haachama agree? Wow she agreed really quickly. That's why I have to work on her channel after ending my stream. Haato agreed so so quickly, and she's different from the others. She feels like she really made a mistake, you know? Really wants to SAY SORRY. Haato really wants to come here and SAY SORRY.'
  • 'Did Okayu agree? Okayu agreed too. Hold on let me take a look. Okayu didn't disagree.'
  • 'Those that disagreed are the ones that you couldn't even name. Such as EN, ID, I don't know what they're even for. Not even I know who they are, you understand? JP either agrees, or doesn't reply. But not replying is regular occurrence, no JP is opposed to it. You understand?'
  • 'Those that disagreed are all the unfamiliar EN and ID, I don't even know who they are. (repeated again) I really don't know them, I was like who even is this? To refuse? And very few disagreed. There's just one or two that disagreed.'
  • 'Does Pekora agree? Pekora agreed. Can she say no? They all agreed, they filled in To Cooperate Enthusiastically (on the forms). Or cooperative depending on the content, nobody refused.'
  • 'No no, only two refused. One ID and one EN. And I don't even know who they are.'
  • 'Marine? Marine agreed, Marine didn't disagree. All cooperative. You'll see them anyway, don't worry. Didn't Kobo stream on the first of june?'
  • 'Does HoloCN agree? HoloCN, I didn't ask them for their opinions. I can do it for you guys. You can send them an SC to ask about it.'
Most interesting points
- He still mentions HoloCN as if it still existed as an entity
- Most of JP is on board,
- Haachama wants to apologize
- Only one from ID and EN each allegedly refused to stream on BiliBili

The general tone and them presenting people who were vaugely favorable to bili as absolutely desperate to return is very odd, its seemingly very self-fellating
Its also second-hand info from someone who seemingly claims to be an insider, so it could all be a heaping pile of bullshit

The CEO behind these words is the one of Metishion, who owns NOA Talent, the wierd scammy company that Sayu is joining, as a fun sidenote, their linked in links to "noatalent.com" bringing a 404 until you manually type the www.
Ahhhh Sayu.... it's so much worse then I thought. Sayu, create an account here and explain yourself.
:Zaion-HAHAFAYAH:
 

The Rrat

Phoneposting, Rat-loving menace
Early Adopter
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Late night Ame-raoke in 8 minutes.
 

Grandmaster Robin

Active member
Joined:  Jun 12, 2023
Fairly sure it's more because she can't handle the commitment of being in a corpo. She has barely streamed for the past three months due to work and family stuff. When they debuted she was being positioned as the singer of the gen, but she only had karaoke streams once in a blue moon. She probably thought that she could hop into Kawaii and treat it like a hobby. As far as I can tell she had no PL activity as a VTuber, so it's likely that she realized it's just not for her.

A funny rrat I've seen is that her mod boyfriend got her pregnant and September is the due date. The likely reason it's September because she's just letting her contract run out. Hanamizuki debuted October 15 of last year, so it's just about 1 month short of one year.
I got a new pc and unfortunately didn't back up the screenshot but /vt/ had her pl on day 1 and was posting a tweet from her about always having her boyfriend being there as her mod for support. By then the account had already wiped out all its streams so I couldn't confirm her voice myself. It does add credibility that the mod in question was the same account on the supposed pl account and Ran's.
 

DanishCookies

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Joined:  May 10, 2023

Ensok

Well-known member
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 12, 2022

DanishCookies

Well-known member
Joined:  May 10, 2023
We need to gatekeep against Indians. Gotta stay vigilant so they don't infest the vtuber sphere.

I think that guy in the screenshot is Indonesian but is acting like a Jeet :SelenHAHAhere:
gatekeep them all anyway
 

agility_

We have some serious streams to discuss 🔨
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 14, 2022
There is no indian vtuber sphere, Nijisanji IN withered and vanished in about a year.
 

Ensok

Well-known member
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 12, 2022
There is no indian vtuber sphere, Nijisanji IN withered and vanished in about a year.
And hopefully no one ever tries breaking into that market again.
 

MerelyTourist

jkterjter jkterjtier
LM's Ladyboy
Joined:  Feb 5, 2024
There is no indian vtuber sphere, Nijisanji IN withered and vanished in about a year.
Then again, it's niji. Withering and vanishing foreign market expansions is what they do.
Main issue is, there's no money to earn from targeting pajeets. All potentially paying indian audience will be very comfortable watching in english anyway.
 

The Scream Guy

Genuinely Mentally Handicapped
Joined:  Mar 10, 2023
interesting post from reddit
allegedly one of the main CEOs behind the company that sponsored Holo's return to CN was yapping about Holo's return to BiliBili, this is all 2nd hand info from this chink keemstar-esque dramafag
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYou...hon_ownerceo_mocks_holoid_and_en_members_who/ https://archive.ph/Ox0LE

this was the video itself if anyone knows chinese, would love if anyone knows how to archive BiliBili videos
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cy411B7ih/ https://archive.ph/axRLo
alleges that most of JP signed a form to return to BiliBili and that "only 1 ID and EN" refused


First what is Metishon? It is company that runs Kobo's Bilibili channel and is doing business as an agent to bring international Vtubers back to Bilibili.
Who is in the video? 乐府 or Lefu is the owner and boss of Metishon. His name is public information because of China social media and business laws. He owns 62.5% of Metishon shares according to publically available business records. His identity is public knowledge on his socials (not dox).
Metishon is also the company that owns Noa Talent, a new EN Vtuber group that leaked their new lineup by accident through youtube misconfiguration. Some people here probably found out who is in it. Their audition manager 'Quinn' went onto 4chan and admitted that she was the one who messed up. She also replied to 4chan on her twitter account to prove that it really was her. Metishon also owns Witch Company 魔女公司 which is a Vtuber company.
I'll do the translation of the video (he calls Holomems 'Livers' due to bad english) https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cy411B7ih/
  • 'Why are you guys looping? I said many times that they, livers want to return to Bilibili of their own will. I've been saying this since last year. They came to us, why did they come to us, it's because livers are throwing a tantrum, they definitely want to stream on Bilibili'
  • 'Those that do not support Bilibili are the other Holo Vs (reading viewer comment)? You mean the Crews? No, Crews can watch Aqua, it's not like we are stopping you Crews from watching your main.'
  • 'It has to be Genshin? It's not that. No, they definitely want to play Genshin, but it doesn't mean Genshin is the only reason for returning to Bilibili.'
  • 'But I think Shirakami Fubuki returning is easy. She wants to be back, she wants to come back and stream. She didn't say she was unwilling, and she replied really quickly you know? We were surprised that she's so cooperative. She's among the most cooperative. Because the damage to her and her reputation in the past was quite huge. We asked those wanting to return to fill up the forms. Shirakami Fubuki was the first or second to do it. Also her cooperation level was the highest. She agreed (to come back), she really agreed. She agreed to everything.'
  • 'Did Suisei submit the form? Suisei submitted it. If she didn't how could we have uploaded her BIBBIDIBA video so quickly? Suisei agrees very much. Many superstars agreed, those who came to Bilibili in the past all agreed quickly. Those that were on Bilibili all agreed, none disagreed, and they did it very quickly.'
  • 'Who did not agree? Those that weren't on Bilibili before. Did Haachama agree? Wow she agreed really quickly. That's why I have to work on her channel after ending my stream. Haato agreed so so quickly, and she's different from the others. She feels like she really made a mistake, you know? Really wants to SAY SORRY. Haato really wants to come here and SAY SORRY.'
  • 'Did Okayu agree? Okayu agreed too. Hold on let me take a look. Okayu didn't disagree.'
  • 'Those that disagreed are the ones that you couldn't even name. Such as EN, ID, I don't know what they're even for. Not even I know who they are, you understand? JP either agrees, or doesn't reply. But not replying is regular occurrence, no JP is opposed to it. You understand?'
  • 'Those that disagreed are all the unfamiliar EN and ID, I don't even know who they are. (repeated again) I really don't know them, I was like who even is this? To refuse? And very few disagreed. There's just one or two that disagreed.'
  • 'Does Pekora agree? Pekora agreed. Can she say no? They all agreed, they filled in To Cooperate Enthusiastically (on the forms). Or cooperative depending on the content, nobody refused.'
  • 'No no, only two refused. One ID and one EN. And I don't even know who they are.'
  • 'Marine? Marine agreed, Marine didn't disagree. All cooperative. You'll see them anyway, don't worry. Didn't Kobo stream on the first of june?'
  • 'Does HoloCN agree? HoloCN, I didn't ask them for their opinions. I can do it for you guys. You can send them an SC to ask about it.'
Most interesting points
- He still mentions HoloCN as if it still existed as an entity
- Most of JP is on board,
- Haachama wants to apologize
- Only one from ID and EN each allegedly refused to stream on BiliBili

The general tone and them presenting people who were vaugely favorable to bili as absolutely desperate to return is very odd, its seemingly very self-fellating
Its also second-hand info from someone who seemingly claims to be an insider, so it could all be a heaping pile of bullshit

The CEO behind these words is the one of Metishion, who owns NOA Talent, the wierd scammy company that Sayu is joining, as a fun sidenote, their linked in links to "noatalent.com" bringing a 404 until you manually type the www.
Its so fucking over for Sayu how did she manage to find the second blackest company and think "ah yes, this will be good!" Its like she's a snowbunny but for getting abused
 
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